PLEASE Yeevia, tell me how tor breed bettas, i want a new project and got a nice enough betta male, what do i need to do (bar buy a female bett lol)

Well, if it's a pet store betta- I was told not to breed these because they have messy genetics and will produce more deformities. Not good quality fish.

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Hey Oddball, here are some links to help you out. I myself am getting ready to attempt this as well, maybe we can compare notes as we go along? lol

Anyways, a lot of ppl who breed really respect Jim Sonnier and here are links to his site on breeding, raising fry and feeding fry. If you have time, read the rest of his site, i think it's pretty informative and the photo's are awesome!!!

Spawning: http://www.bettas-jimsonnier.com/spawning.htm

Feeding Fry: http://www.bettas-jimsonnier.com/feedingfry.htm

Raising Fry: http://www.bettas-jimsonnier.com/raisingyoung.htm

These should help you out some, while waiting for Yeevia to reply. :)

What kind of betta you breeding and what color are they? And what your goal is or what you want? :gay:

My bettas a crown tail, black with white face, the famales black with white stripes in their fins, i want to get the white stripes from the fins into a male

My second is an electric blue flame tail, i want to cross him with some wild betta females, they are brown with light blue fins

Final betta who is guinea pig is a red lfs strain crossing him with an electric blue female

also can male and female bettas be kept together in a 2 gal mini tank? Just for the coffee table i may get some lfs strain bettas for something to talk about

the male and female cannot be kept together unless you are spawning! it the tank is divided, then they would be okay

IMO, a 2.5 gallon is a good size for one betta. Male or female.

5 gallons or larger is(also my opinion only)better though, b/c it's easier to keep the temp steady(75°F-80°F is a good parameter for non-breeding, healthy bettas)and it's easier on you, b/c with a smaller tank, you have to do daily water changes. Also a 5 gallon or larger you can put a filter on it and it won't harm the betta. In a smaller tank a filter will cause too much disturbance in the water and this is stressful on the betta, which in the long run can cause him to get sick.

If you only wanted to keep 1 male and 1 female, you could buy a 10 gallon and divide it by making a divider out of plastic canvas and those plastic report binders.

But if you want to keep more than one betta, you need to stick with only females (in an undivided tank that is) and imo a minimum of a 10 gallon tank. As long as you have at least 3 females, multiple females can be kept together. They really shouldn't be kept with males, unless you are breeding though, b/c after a while they will pair up and then harrass or possibly kill the other fish in the tank. And when breeding, again a 10 gallon will be needed and then you only have the pair in there and no one else.

If you want to go for multiple males in the same tank, you will need to have a divided tank. And you will need to be sure that the divided is secure in the tank so that the males can not get to eachother.

These are just things i have learned from researching keeping and breeding bettas, and i hope it helps you out some. But it is just basically my opinion, based on others opinions, and not fact or anything.

Oddball, do you have any pic's of those bettas???? They sound sooo beautiful!!!

Sound very interesting experiment. So the crowntail male is a pieball and the female has black and white stripe. Therefore, both are marble gene. You should get black and white for sure but where they located, we don't know because they are marbles. Is the female crowntail? Makesure not veiltail else you get combtail later. If plakat, it is fine. :)

The second pair will sound great if he is not veiltail. :) Plakat will be real great.

Third pair I can omit it. Never cross a red to a blue. :) It will be a mess up gene later. :)

Next time, think about what type of tail are they and how many rays to. It plays a lot especially the female. :)

Wild female, 12 tail fin rays


electric blue female 10 fin rays

piebald female 13 rays

Okay im sticking the third pair into sepereate mini tanks later on today, shall get one some microfilters from my lfs today to keep them well, thanks so far guys ;)

for breeding purposes i have a 30 x 18 inch tank which i will split into two 15 x 18 sections for them, i can then keep the fems/males seperate so they can decide what they want

Guess theres a lot more to it than i thought lol :unsure:

Oddball, yes there is a lot to it. I didn't even begin to imagine how much until i started researching it. But i am told it is well worth it and i believe it. I am so excited right now about the possibility of having betta fry and my pair is still conditioning. lol Last night/this morning i didn't even go to sleep b/c i was so excited and couldn't get my butt off of the net to go to sleep. lol I'll probably crash early tonight then. lol But, i just kept reading and re-reading everything i could find on breeding bettas, even though i had already read it when i initially decided to breed. I just can't seem to get enough. I even started an online breeding journal on my webpage, in between reading things. It's not accessible to the public yet, b/c i am not going to make it accessible until i have intro'd the male and female, but it's still there. lol

Anyways, the cichlids i bred were soooo much more easy(not downplaying raising and breeding cich's in any way), b/c i basically let them parent raise. My convict's did an awesome job of that. Them and my jack dempsey's were the easiest to breed out of the cichlids. My keyholes would get picky for some reason, but then again i wasn't purposely trying to breed them...but they did breed a few times. I think the fact that my tank was a little overstocked was probably why they were either getting picky or babies were just being eaten before i knew they were there. Keyholes were in a 20 long, but there were 6 of them in there. Live and learn. :)

Anyways, i hope to have lot's of fun with this betta batch i may or may not even end up with. lol But if it turns out to be successful, i just know i'll be even more addicted. :wub:

My research (although a little late) has pointed me thusly:

The dietary requirements are 3 small feedings a day, in my case some bloodworms (3 each, hand fed) some protein pellets (betta sized) adn some colour flake (crushed for the bettas)

They are seperated into different containers, the 30 x 18 is being modified to 6 smaller tanks, 10 x 9 inch each, the males can see the females and each other and show off to their hearts contenti intend to use an old 2 foot tank for the pairs

the filtration in each tank is a small sponge filter, so as not to create huge currents

well ive got to find me some young betta holders soon as well lol small steps i guess but they get me started

Oh and that piebald must be oversexed coz he dosent stop flaring at the other two males! the lfs one isnt interested in his new wild females next to him, guess he must like blue :huh: the blue male has his moments but isnt all that active

Breeding Bettas sure can be hard. There are a lot of precautions you must take less someone ends up dead! I have done it a time or two but my female was just so abused I stopped doing it altogether now.
But good luck and I hope you get some healthy good looking abies out of it.

Well, makesure put both betta containers side by side when you conditioning them for a week or longer. They will mostly breed successfully. :)

Hi Oddball! It's good to see you interested in bettas. Yes, breeding them can be frustrating sometimes and also a challenge but it's worth it. I agree with Yeev when he said not to cross red with blue because the gene pool would be ruined. Nowadays people cross red with red or blue with blue to get a pure red or pure blue. Sounds confusing doesn't it. When you breed make sure you have a growout tank (check the post made by Seedy on how to raise bettas).

Don't breed the red and blue together! You actually want to get the red and blue far away from eachother :) Put red+red or blue+blue but not together...

Also, I see you are going by rays so I will just assume the rest are crowntails as well :)

Good luck! jay

I surely recommend tupperware, like Yeevia, hehe. Read his tupperware topic.

So Oddball, how's your betta breeding going?? Haven't heard any updates from you....have you intro'd a pair yet?? :) Mine's a bust, but my female is getting big again, and my different male is working on a bubblenest, so hopefully this next attempt will work out. One can hope. :)