I just started noticing that my parrot fish started growing black marks so I wanna know what it is how to stop it and if he will die from infection.... IT BETTER NOT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *TEAR DROP*

They all get them, even Red Devil and Midas cichlids as well (I Would say thats where it comes from on BP's) its nothing to worry about they will go away. There was a write up I seen once I will try to find it.

Great... that's good to hear =) thanks

Hi!
I actually wrote an article about this in the betta section because it VERY commonly happens to bettas because of the bad water conditions they come from.

Here's a link to the explanation for it. And don't worry - even though it seems like it's not - it's a very good thing. :)

http://tropicalfishchat.net/index.php?showtopic=3104

So it's a good thing that it has black spots? because My parrot is starting to grow more...

Yep.
Go read the article.
You'll understand why.
:)

EDIT - you will want to try to figure out (if you've had him a while) what kind of chemical injury he had - that's what the black stuff is from. It was either some sort of spike in water params or something - unless you just got him from somewhere that he was in bad water.

Have you recently medicated him for anything?

How do you know so much about parrots BM? I thought you only dealed with Betta's.

parrots get black blotches on them when they are stressed.. they can also go through the blotching phase as they change colors

im almost positive its not the same as bettas though

My parrot fish was normally blue but now it turned redish orange or so

Ha!
I don't know anything about parrots, actually.
But the melanphore migration is common in all fish - especially common in goldfish because of the toxins and the enormous amount of waste they all create. Also really common in bettas because of the crappy conditions their water is in before someone buys them and takes them home.

It's not necessarily a condition of just bettas so it can affect most fish.

in parrots, im 99% sure it has nothing to do with mealalapoahaoan meow

they get them when they are stressed, and they often get it when they are changing colors

We're saying it's nothing to worry about, so if it IS just from changing colors or whatever, either way it doesn't make any diff what caused it... he'll be FINE.

Nurthin -
Post a picture.
We'll see.

Also, I just googled it - and here's an interesting article on Black Spot Disease, which hasn't even been touched here yet...
http://www.geocities.com/parrotcichlid/healthcare.html
Ya might wanna check it out.

ive seen that article before, but it talks about treating with medicine.. which isnt needed cause its not sick if it has black spots/blotches..

my parrots black spots/blotches change everyday.. so i dont worry when i see em... usually just means theyre stressed a bit

Well sorry but it's too late it went away xD

Was probably stress or melanaphore then.

Glad to hear he's better! :)

I wouldn't worry about it. Mine have had black spots on them at diffrent times and they seem to be fine. Had them for a couple of years now. Yours if it was dyed, it will eventually become a bright pretty orange color. All four of mine are orange now and very pretty. Don't understand why they dye them.

All of the following is from Wiki which is under GNU.

Melanophores are chromatophores that contain black and brown pigments called melanin.

Chromatophores or pigment cells are color changing cells used most notably by chameleons as well as cephalopods such as squid and octopuses. A chromatophore is composed of a single chromatophore cell and numerous muscle, nerve, glial and sheath cells. These cells are contractile and contain vesicles that contain three different liquid pigments. To change their color the cells distort their form or size stretching or contracting their outer covering thus changing its translucency or opacity. Octopuses can operate each individual chromatophore resulting in a wide variety of color schemes. These cells are highly developed and numerous in the cephalopods.


Based on those deffinitions you would be correct Bettamomma, but for the wrong reasons. All of the midas/red devil/parrot types go through spotiness no matter thier water quality. It is a part of thier nature, I would not even attribute it to stress. It is nature which many people write on and even fewer understand.

Good info.
The condition I was referring to above is actually melanophore migration, in which there is a darkening of the cells which is a sign of the cells recovering from some sort of trauma - either an from ammonia, parasite infestation, etc.

It used to drive me NUTS that all my bettas would start to turn black AFTER I brought them home and started keeping them in sparkly clean water. So I set out to find out why. :)

Melanofore migration is a very interesting google! Much speculation there is on this topic, but enough that speculates simularly that I would have to lend it some truth.

It occurs naturally in the development of fish at all ages.

The melanofore migration itself is complex and varies greatly depending on the fish or animal.

It can be a sign of chemical or physical stress, or it can be a naturally occuring pigment shift.

If there is a general fish health subject pinned then it should be carefully listed as a symptom of water quality and or external paracytes.

One interesting note is that melanofore migration can occur in any animal with melanofore pigments in their skin and is not always a sign of "damage".

Only scientific read I found:
How the zebra danio got it's stripes.

FYI: Beware the bs powers of the internet where anyone can write anything. ;)

Black spot disease is a full double barrel load.
What is happening is that the parrots were dyed, as the tissue and scales die off there is an intermediary time in which there is a "melanofore migration." When the skin is fully healed more than likely the spots will go away.


Good interesting read BM, thanx.

hey nurth...has it still got black spots?

:pft: I did lots of research glaive.
I didn't just google it and toss up the first thing I read.

There's info on it all over the place - I talked to lfs employees, read books, magazine articles, etc. I couldn't figure out why my bettas would all get it when I brought them home from walmart.

Admittedly I don't know squat about black spot disease - I just found that article and put it up there for a read - didn't comment on it either way. But the melanophore migration, I am pretty sure about.