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Title: Thinking about goldfish
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OrkyBetta - August 19, 2005 05:44 AM (GMT)
Ok, as I am starting my 30 gallon back up, I decided I am giving up on divided betta tanks. I was put through hell when I divided it the last time. So, I thought, what can I put in this tank, since I have a great new filter, heater, gravel, thermometer and deco? I decided I still want to help needy and abused fish, and aside from bettas, I should try a goldfish. Can anyone post info on a goldfish I could keep in a 30 gallon tank? (if any) and if so, how many and what temp should the water be?

Thanks!

roberto - August 19, 2005 05:54 AM (GMT)
if i had a goldfish i would put him in the toilet bowl, they r good enough conditions

The-Wolf - August 19, 2005 06:03 AM (GMT)
generally the rule is
20 gallons for the first fish and 10 for each additional fish
this means a 30 g tank is only suitable for two goldfish.
I'm talking common/comet/shubunkin/wakins.

for fancy goldfish (fantails, jikins,orandas,moores etc) it should be 10 gallons for each fish
so 30 gallons means three fish.

HTH

roberto - August 19, 2005 06:14 AM (GMT)
:omg: thats alot of space for 1 gold fish....... maybe a really big toilet bowl?? :dunno:

OrkyBetta - August 19, 2005 06:17 AM (GMT)
Wow, I was actually expecting for you guys to say a 30 gallon isnt big enough for a goldfish at all. I have a lot of respect for goldfish since they are pond fish. I REALLY like comets, and orandas. So it looks like I get to choose, fun. Now, about water temperatures, they are cold water fish. My house is usually between 73 and 76 degrees. Will I fry a goldfish in these temps?

barramundi - August 26, 2005 01:20 AM (GMT)
No, goldfish are very hardy, just be sure to take your time acclimatising them to your tank. Bear in mind your local LFS porbably has similar temps too unless they're cooling the building. But I'd keep the tank away from direct sunlight to avoid it being heated too much.

Have you thought of doing a biotype tank? You've got a lot of options with a 30g tank & could have a really active busy tank as opposed to just 2 fish?? :?:

OrkyBetta - August 27, 2005 01:19 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I've put a good ammount of thought as to what to do with that tank. I don't have a lot of money. My parents refuse to give me any money for 'my stupid hobby.' And I am also saving up for a new saddle, since I am a very active horseback rider as well. So, as much as I'd love a beautiful active tank, I don't think it would be fair for the fish if I couldn't buy them live plants and such. Plus, I keep fish as pets. So, I think since goldfish live a long time, are incredibly hardy, and rediculously inexpensive, and I just happened to find a tank in my garage that is the right size for the fish, I decided on them.

barramundi - August 27, 2005 11:46 AM (GMT)
In that case goldfish sound perfect! :) Don't mind me, I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to goldfish. But they do make good pets especially due to their longevity & hardiness. Enjoy!!! :)

germanshepherdlver - August 27, 2005 03:29 PM (GMT)
i would go for a fancy!i like celestials
although there are alot of feeders that might want a long and happy life.......

mango4jade - August 27, 2005 05:01 PM (GMT)
Crown Pearlscales are nice, but expensive and hard to keep. They are so cute too! :D

OrkyBetta - August 27, 2005 06:04 PM (GMT)
I got two fantails today. They were just so cute I couldnt help it! And the lfs kept them in BOWLS. Are you kidding me? So they are currently living it up in the 30 gallon tank. Theyre big enough where the tank doesn't look empty, and some snails might accompany them later...

Never2ManyBettas - August 28, 2005 10:39 AM (GMT)
Don't forget filtration.... and really clean the gravel well. Comets are my favorite. I have 4 comets & 1 common. They get very large though.

The ones I started off with..... originally they were just to cycle the tank.... then I got to really liking them. They were just over an inch long... 1 year later.... the biggest is over 6 inches.

Comets are the most hardy... most agressive.... sleeker build (so they are faster too).... and the only variety created in the United States.

They can live 10 years easily with the proper care... 20 years is not unheard of either.

If you aren't looking for something that long lived.... or if you want more going on in the tank... you could opt to go slow and just build up the tank with other kinds of fish.


Yep.... saddles get pricey. I still have my old saddle from forever ago.... Crosby spring seat.... that thing has been through it all and still is really nice. My sister has a Hermes... she never did take good care of her tack. What kind of horse do you have? I used to have 2 arabs and a morgan. My in-laws have 4. Check with yur barn manager.... the one I was at did a ton of competitions so they worked out a deal for us.

OrkyBetta - August 28, 2005 06:35 PM (GMT)
Hey, thanks for the advice. The tank has a HOB filter and I'm gunna clean gravel every couple of days whenever i do my betta tanks.

I REALLY want a custom fit County saddle, but those might cost me an arm and a leg. Currently I am horseless, but I am getting a 16 hand trakehner gelding. Currently I have an HDR advantage that is made of that printed leather that wears so oddly, so I clean it after every ride, and it still looks new a year later.




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