Title: Thinking about it
oppositearmor - September 1, 2005 06:00 AM (GMT)
Once I get one of Synirr's bettas, I'm thinking about breeding one (the one that dosen't have a deformaty). Does any one have any tips, or links on breeding bettas?
Never2ManyBettas - September 1, 2005 01:30 PM (GMT)
Deformity? Where? If it is just the vents.... I wouldn't worry.
oppositearmor - September 1, 2005 02:47 PM (GMT)
Well one has a gil problem, so I wouldn't breed him, although he's my favorite one. But then the other guy has a missing ventral, but it's growning back. Do you think it would be fine to breed the one with the gil deformity? It's only puffed out a bit.
Never2ManyBettas - September 1, 2005 03:48 PM (GMT)
Puffed out? Puffed out gills is not usually a deformity.... it is usually a sign something is wrong. Gill damage. Gills are a particularly sensitive area... easy pickins for parasites to feed on.... also easy for those delicate membranes to get damaged by bad water.
Before you write him off and out of your breeding program... try seeing if he can be healed up. Clean water. The never ending mantra of fishkeepers... water change... water change... water change. Almond leaf tea also helps... seems to make it easier on their gills IMO.
Get him to flare and see if you can get a peek... just to make sure it is clear and does not have any invaders. You just want to try clean water to see if he can heal up by himself before you consider meds.
Missing vents can happen with fry too. If you let the bottom of the tank get nasty the build up of the bacteria will eat away at their vents... in particular when you have fry that seem to hang out on the bottom of the tank. I haven't had this issue.. so far I have lucked out with fry that are usually hanging out mid to upper parts of the tank.... unless they gorged themselves silly... but I have lots of plants in there... so they prefer to do the food coma thing in java moss.
Neither of those things are deformities. The ones you watch out for... the ones you do not breed are those showing spinal problems... crooked... kinked... bent.. hunchback... stubby body length.... etc. etc.
And who says you can't spawn them both? :lol: Try Mr. DinkyVent first while you are recouping and conditioning Mr. Gills. The female will be ready to spawn again in about 2 weeks. Just enough time.
Good luck!!
semper fi - September 1, 2005 04:04 PM (GMT)
everything you ever wanted to know about breeding bettas but were afraid to ask. this is one of my favorite articles to reference to. some may have a variation or two on it, but this is pretty much the basics. written by sarah landry from colorado crowntails.
http://www.flippersandfins.net/bettabreedingarticle.htm
oppositearmor - September 1, 2005 05:59 PM (GMT)
Sorry, when I said his gills were puffed out, I ment his has a slight flaring problem. he has a minor flare all the time.
Never2ManyBettas - September 2, 2005 07:32 AM (GMT)
Yep.... I know what ya mean... gill plates won't lay back flat like they should. Very infrequently issues with the gill plates may be a deformity.... but what you are describing is more like gill disease. Basically nitrites damaged his gills... or bacterial infection. Gills are super sensitive... so they can get damaged easy. Gills are swollen and won't lay back flat.... fish is not quite as active as it should/ could be.
If you have a dark colored betta... when they get all goofy and flare too much... you see white ... but when carded... it goes back to normal color over time. But the gills still go and lay back flat.
The puffed gills is usually environmental.... not genetic.
I am not trying to be a nag.. or a :dickhead: ... I am just saying his issues can be fixed... and he can be put into your breeding program once he is healed. It happens more frequently than you would expect.
Maracyn 2.... if you have it on hand...
oppositearmor - September 2, 2005 08:44 PM (GMT)
I don't have it, but I'll probably buy it though.