well shit.... i lost the silver one. i found him dead last night before i went to bed. no signs of disease or aggression, just stiff as a board, WTF?

How long did you have them, and how did you acclimate them?

:rip: Little Angel.

i have had them for 5 days now. i just floated their bag for about 15 minutes, netted them then put them in the tank.

I usually float them for 15-20 min then start adding small ammounts of the tank water to the bag every 5-10 min to acclimate them slowly to the water chemistry as well as the temp. I don't add the bag water to the tank but I do add tank water to the bag, once it's about 50% tank water I then net them and set them free in the tank.
Just somthing to think about for next time.

dont feel bad cich, I couldnt keep angels alive if my life depended on it

I don't know why, but I have always had trouble with angels. After I get them used to the move and all they do ok. Just trouble getting them home and in the tank for a couple of days alive. I think their just really sensitive fish... I currently have two adults... And that took buying about a dozen to get those two to stay alive...

Angels are very fragile fish, my record for keeping them alive is about 3 months, but my mom had a pair that she kept for 5 years, they even raised fry for her, go figure.

thanks everyone. thanks for the info dorothy, i live around the corner from this particular lfs so i didn't think that i would need to go through the full acclimitizing process. they were in the bag for about 5 minutes, then acclimated to my water temp for 10 more. for the entire time the fish didn't show any signs of stress, in fact it was eating well, and quite active around the tank.

I would be very suprised if lack of acclimatisation took five days to kill a fish. I think it is more likely to be aggression - I know you couldn't see any signs of it, but angels tend to be very pschycologically aggressive. I had two for about two years, a black and a white. They grew very fast, and after about eighteen months all hell broke loose. During the day the black would harrass the white mercilesly. Then at night the white would turn on the black. The picked on fish would just turn over on its side and lie on the bottom of the tank. Needless to say they went into a nice tank full of angels at the lfs!

I agree, sometimes they just seem to die for no good reason. I have tried several times to keep them but they don't seem to like me. I figure I'll give it one more try with my big tank, but if they die I will put them on my list of never agains with neons.

you're probably right limegirl.:)
dtroup, i'm thinking the same, if i lose the other one i won't get them anymore.:)

*gasp* NOOOOOO!!! I loved the silver one!! :sook: :(

Yeah...angels can be a pain in the ass. They die off with no reason at all...it's very annoying. Sorry to hear your loss... :rip:

What temperature is the tank? Angels like it warmer, the coolest I'll keep adults is 82F, smaller ones are around the 86-88F range.

Smaller ones seem to do better in larger groups, at least 10 in a 20 or 29. As they mature, you can thin them out, and drop the temp a little.

that could very well be the problem tolak. the tank hovers around 80 degrees.